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	<title>Comments on: TEA Party, anyone?</title>
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	<description>The way things should be...</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: olderperson</title>
		<link>http://lederman.freedomblogging.com/2009/06/24/tea-party-anyone/1141/#comment-2115</link>
		<dc:creator>olderperson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully,  The Commissioners got the message today, too.  With that Protest in front of the Court House.   No more Taxes, not only Nationally, but Locally, too.  I wish I knew about that protest.  I would have loved to have been there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully,  The Commissioners got the message today, too.  With that Protest in front of the Court House.   No more Taxes, not only Nationally, but Locally, too.  I wish I knew about that protest.  I would have loved to have been there.</p>
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		<title>By: limaradio</title>
		<link>http://lederman.freedomblogging.com/2009/06/24/tea-party-anyone/1141/#comment-2103</link>
		<dc:creator>limaradio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe me, I was there.  Shreefer WAS NOT fired because of comments about the pope.  In an earlier post ron said it best: "Droning on for hours five days a week about why Bush is an idiot tends to keep people from listening, which tends to keep advertisers from advertisers, which tends to keep talk show hosts from talk show hosting."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe me, I was there.  Shreefer WAS NOT fired because of comments about the pope.  In an earlier post ron said it best: &#8220;Droning on for hours five days a week about why Bush is an idiot tends to keep people from listening, which tends to keep advertisers from advertisers, which tends to keep talk show hosts from talk show hosting.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rlederman</title>
		<link>http://lederman.freedomblogging.com/2009/06/24/tea-party-anyone/1141/#comment-2077</link>
		<dc:creator>rlederman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tkeiffer, what did he say about the pope?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tkeiffer, what did he say about the pope?</p>
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		<title>By: tkeiffer</title>
		<link>http://lederman.freedomblogging.com/2009/06/24/tea-party-anyone/1141/#comment-2075</link>
		<dc:creator>tkeiffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shreefer was fired from WIMA the second time because of his comments about the pope. His ratings were in the toilet toward the end and it was only a matter of time before he found the can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shreefer was fired from WIMA the second time because of his comments about the pope. His ratings were in the toilet toward the end and it was only a matter of time before he found the can.</p>
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		<title>By: rlederman</title>
		<link>http://lederman.freedomblogging.com/2009/06/24/tea-party-anyone/1141/#comment-2073</link>
		<dc:creator>rlederman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Jim, I don't recall our having that exchange about the auto industry. I do count the cartoons. I asked you for an example, and you didn't deliver. Thus your daddy is also going to beat up mine. 

I am asking you to back up your statements, You made them here, so I asked you to back them up here. You work for the prison system, so you don't come with the credentials to impress me into guaranteeing you column space based on your assurance that you have some deep theory. Start here, Jim, and we'll see.

But, thing is, Jim, when someone says something like "in my experience" and then won't back up that experience, it isn't much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Jim, I don&#8217;t recall our having that exchange about the auto industry. I do count the cartoons. I asked you for an example, and you didn&#8217;t deliver. Thus your daddy is also going to beat up mine. </p>
<p>I am asking you to back up your statements, You made them here, so I asked you to back them up here. You work for the prison system, so you don&#8217;t come with the credentials to impress me into guaranteeing you column space based on your assurance that you have some deep theory. Start here, Jim, and we&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>But, thing is, Jim, when someone says something like &#8220;in my experience&#8221; and then won&#8217;t back up that experience, it isn&#8217;t much.</p>
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		<title>By: starrlady</title>
		<link>http://lederman.freedomblogging.com/2009/06/24/tea-party-anyone/1141/#comment-2071</link>
		<dc:creator>starrlady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love tea parties.  All the crazies in one spot so you know exactly who they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love tea parties.  All the crazies in one spot so you know exactly who they are.</p>
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		<title>By: StillTheOne</title>
		<link>http://lederman.freedomblogging.com/2009/06/24/tea-party-anyone/1141/#comment-2069</link>
		<dc:creator>StillTheOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say tea party to the hilt on these guys.  I mean all three of them. What you are seeing in the media by this group of comishes is on some fronts organzied.  Anyone remember Sneary saying in the winter that nobody was talking about a tax increase, seriously or otherwise? Some of us then said it was the start of trial balloons and good cop/bad cop between the three.  Anyone with a basic IQ should know it was "on the table" then.  Either Sneary had his head in the sand, or he was not totally forthcoming.  I say all three need to be shown the door on the next go around. They all will stutter and stammer when asked tough questions.  It's typical small town politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say tea party to the hilt on these guys.  I mean all three of them. What you are seeing in the media by this group of comishes is on some fronts organzied.  Anyone remember Sneary saying in the winter that nobody was talking about a tax increase, seriously or otherwise? Some of us then said it was the start of trial balloons and good cop/bad cop between the three.  Anyone with a basic IQ should know it was &#8220;on the table&#8221; then.  Either Sneary had his head in the sand, or he was not totally forthcoming.  I say all three need to be shown the door on the next go around. They all will stutter and stammer when asked tough questions.  It&#8217;s typical small town politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim M. Hobbs</title>
		<link>http://lederman.freedomblogging.com/2009/06/24/tea-party-anyone/1141/#comment-2067</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim M. Hobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, if you'll recall this is the second time that you have asked me to specifically lay my thoughts and facts out on the line.  The first time came in the form of an email and pertained to the automotive industry.  (I don’t count political cartoons but as I said, if you want to pay me and put me in print, I’ll be more than happy to point those out as well.)

So, I took the time to write an op-ed chock full of facts and not fiction.  Of course it went unpublished, I'm assuming because it completely contradicted everything that had been so misstated by your Mr. Lucente.  

That's Ok; it's your paper and ink and you publish who you want; people that fall in line with your papers beliefs.  So, it's not that I can't recall facts or list them in excruciating detail; because I can.  It's just that you won't print them so what’s the point?  Why are you people so scared to print an opposing view?  That of course is why your paper is hemorrhaging so badly.  And why you should get out why you can.

Ron, I get the feeling that you are desperately trying to bait me into saying something negative about you.  It's not going to work.  You're not Lucente; you're much smarter and don't have to resort to pitching fiction as fact to make your point.  You keep hanging on to Lucente though and he’ll take you right down the toilet with him.  You deserve respect which is why I give it.  The fact that you don’t want to take it well, that’s your issue to hash out not mine.  Bash me all you want buddy just keep it factual.

If it's one thing I have learned in 17-years of working in the prison system it’s that one cannot communicate with everyone using the same "language".  Yes, we all may speak English on here but different forms of it.  This is why I speak to you in one fashion and Lucente and DrTorch in a completely different one.  There are certain people that just don’t understand anything unless you address them in the manner that they are accustomed too.  

And by the way, my “daddy” is dead.  He passed away a year ago, God bless his soul.  Does that make you feel better Ron, to take shots at me and my dead father for your Lucente’s benefit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, if you&#8217;ll recall this is the second time that you have asked me to specifically lay my thoughts and facts out on the line.  The first time came in the form of an email and pertained to the automotive industry.  (I don’t count political cartoons but as I said, if you want to pay me and put me in print, I’ll be more than happy to point those out as well.)</p>
<p>So, I took the time to write an op-ed chock full of facts and not fiction.  Of course it went unpublished, I&#8217;m assuming because it completely contradicted everything that had been so misstated by your Mr. Lucente.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s Ok; it&#8217;s your paper and ink and you publish who you want; people that fall in line with your papers beliefs.  So, it&#8217;s not that I can&#8217;t recall facts or list them in excruciating detail; because I can.  It&#8217;s just that you won&#8217;t print them so what’s the point?  Why are you people so scared to print an opposing view?  That of course is why your paper is hemorrhaging so badly.  And why you should get out why you can.</p>
<p>Ron, I get the feeling that you are desperately trying to bait me into saying something negative about you.  It&#8217;s not going to work.  You&#8217;re not Lucente; you&#8217;re much smarter and don&#8217;t have to resort to pitching fiction as fact to make your point.  You keep hanging on to Lucente though and he’ll take you right down the toilet with him.  You deserve respect which is why I give it.  The fact that you don’t want to take it well, that’s your issue to hash out not mine.  Bash me all you want buddy just keep it factual.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s one thing I have learned in 17-years of working in the prison system it’s that one cannot communicate with everyone using the same &#8220;language&#8221;.  Yes, we all may speak English on here but different forms of it.  This is why I speak to you in one fashion and Lucente and DrTorch in a completely different one.  There are certain people that just don’t understand anything unless you address them in the manner that they are accustomed too.  </p>
<p>And by the way, my “daddy” is dead.  He passed away a year ago, God bless his soul.  Does that make you feel better Ron, to take shots at me and my dead father for your Lucente’s benefit?</p>
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		<title>By: rlederman</title>
		<link>http://lederman.freedomblogging.com/2009/06/24/tea-party-anyone/1141/#comment-2065</link>
		<dc:creator>rlederman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, I'm not sure Shreefer is off radio because he blasted Republicans. Probably had more to do with only blasting Republicans. He became a very one-trick pony. I also blast Republicans, but there's some variety from me and from the editorial page. Droning on for hours five days a week about why Bush is an idiot tends to keep people from listening, which tends to keep advertisers from advertisers, which tends to keep talk show hosts from talk show hosting.

You're as free as anyone to submit something, but a column outlining your grievances against any one politician is unlikely to see print. We generally don't do guest columns that are solely to rip apart a politician. We have Lucente for that. (Just seeing if he's reading.) You have 16 months before he faces re-election. If you did your reasons in letters, you could probably get them all in before November 2010.

You could outline your reasons here, Jim, since this is the second time you've said something that I've questioned and that you have refused to back up. Could your daddy also beat up my daddy, Jim? That’s what your claims have begun to sound like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, I&#8217;m not sure Shreefer is off radio because he blasted Republicans. Probably had more to do with only blasting Republicans. He became a very one-trick pony. I also blast Republicans, but there&#8217;s some variety from me and from the editorial page. Droning on for hours five days a week about why Bush is an idiot tends to keep people from listening, which tends to keep advertisers from advertisers, which tends to keep talk show hosts from talk show hosting.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re as free as anyone to submit something, but a column outlining your grievances against any one politician is unlikely to see print. We generally don&#8217;t do guest columns that are solely to rip apart a politician. We have Lucente for that. (Just seeing if he&#8217;s reading.) You have 16 months before he faces re-election. If you did your reasons in letters, you could probably get them all in before November 2010.</p>
<p>You could outline your reasons here, Jim, since this is the second time you&#8217;ve said something that I&#8217;ve questioned and that you have refused to back up. Could your daddy also beat up my daddy, Jim? That’s what your claims have begun to sound like.</p>
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		<title>By: olderperson</title>
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		<dc:creator>olderperson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea who Hobbs is either.  And I have lived in Allen County all my life.  Who is Hobbs?  Even have own two businesses here.  Still don't know whom this Hobbs is?   Anyhow,  whoever he is.  I don't agree with him.  So I guess it doesn't make a differnce if I know who he is or not!    One of the other posters bought up the Tea Party Protest right in front of DeHavens.  As I told them..  They plan it.  I will be one of the first one at the Tea Party.    I was at the first Tea Party.  and I did not see any local Government officals there.  They were all as far as I know State and National.   Except to Tom Ahl.  A  business man.   I did listen to Shreefer and I use stand up for the local Republican Party at that time.   But, if Shreefer was back.  I would probley be on his side now.  Except I think he turned into a Democrat.  Which I would still disagree with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea who Hobbs is either.  And I have lived in Allen County all my life.  Who is Hobbs?  Even have own two businesses here.  Still don&#8217;t know whom this Hobbs is?   Anyhow,  whoever he is.  I don&#8217;t agree with him.  So I guess it doesn&#8217;t make a differnce if I know who he is or not!    One of the other posters bought up the Tea Party Protest right in front of DeHavens.  As I told them..  They plan it.  I will be one of the first one at the Tea Party.    I was at the first Tea Party.  and I did not see any local Government officals there.  They were all as far as I know State and National.   Except to Tom Ahl.  A  business man.   I did listen to Shreefer and I use stand up for the local Republican Party at that time.   But, if Shreefer was back.  I would probley be on his side now.  Except I think he turned into a Democrat.  Which I would still disagree with him.</p>
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