Anyone want to call the mayor’s race?
November 3rd, 2009, 3:46 pm · 27 Comments · posted by rlederman
OK, anyone want to call any races?
I guess you’re free to argue about why and how and the such, but I’m really just going for percentages in the races.
Here are some of my guesses:
• Lima mayor, Berger with 60 percent
• Allen County sales tax referendum, yes with 57 percent.
• Lima’s 5th Ward, Adams by one vote. OK, that’s hope. Pitts with 60 percent is my guess.
• State Issue 3 (casinos), yes with 60 percent.
Give me your guesses, but do it before 8 p.m. Polls close at 7:30, so after 8 and it’s a case of copying and pasting results. Of course, if you do that and can’t get it right, do it anyway.
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Ron On the imperial burglar I hink you are probably right and I also think P.T. Barnum has been to Lima. On the sales tax issue I think your right (Ok hope) but I think a little closer, maybe 53-47 because the “leaders” have the sheep scared that there will be zero police protection come morning. If the fifth ward puts pitts in again they ought to use the whole ward for firefighter practice because that would be conclusive proof that there is NO intelligent life there. Casino Yes but 55-45 and throw in Lowe over Lewis 58-42.
Berger 55%
Sales Tax Referendum Yes 54%
State Issue 3 Yes 55%
I think the mayor’s race is too close to call, and have stuck by that for a while. I do think that either way it goes, it’s going to be close!
Issue 3…if it gets pushed through, it’ll be because of the bigger cities that will benefit from it. Personally, I don’t want to see it pass, but the way that it’s going right now it very well may.
Issue 2…pass!
Issue 1…pass!
Sales tax referendum…yes vote, meaning it will be repealed.
Those are my calls! :=)
I think you should be real close on your predictions, except I think Pitt’s race will be much closer. I hope Lima City School’s levy passes.
mr I thought everybody was in agreement that the school renewal was a shoe-in. Is there any trend to the contrary?? That would be a shame given the progress they are finally making.
What we agree on something! Let me mark this down…..11/3/09 at 616pm…got it….In today’s world, nothing is a shoe-in.
How about numbers, though, mrumer? What are you guessing?
Boomer, I don’t think anything is a guarantee for the Lima schools with the economy like it is. It might be less than $100 a year people are saving with a no vote, but I think that is going to appeal to some people.
• Lima mayor, Berger with 60 percent
• Allen County sales tax referendum, yes with 57 percent.
• Lima’s 5th Ward, PLEASE GOD - Adams by one or more votes.
• State Issue 3 (casinos), yes with 60 percent.
mrumer and lederman, I hadn’t heard of anybody (well other than one letter to the editor) who thought the renewal for the schools should fail. I am surprised that there is even a question. I hope you guys are wrong and city folks back the schools 65 /35. Especially since it is NOT any new money. They didn’t ask for more, they are living with what they have, no problems with that here. mrumer I never suggested repealing any county taxes either, just the new unvoted one, again because we all have to live within our means for a while. This may be our first agreement but we are not really that far off.
I think your numbers are real close other then Pitts’ race.
Boomer, board member Bobbi McGinnis has led a pretty effective campaign against property taxes for the Lima district. She and another person wrote letters about it, and school officials always worry what people will do.At any rate, McGinnins has planted the idea in some minds that it isn’t fair to keep asknig property owners alone to support the schools.
Plus, Lima unemployment is higher than 10 percent. Taxes are never easy to get, but probably even harder now. Not offering reasons to vote against, just saying what the district faces. The high percentage of non-owners in city probably helps the schools, too.
Mrumer, I’d like to be wrong, but he won with 67 percent four years ago.
I think people are pretty fed up with his antics, but you very well could be right.
Ron, I guess I didn’t realize there was organized opposition, although if I wasn’t sure I’d get deleted again I’d have a few thoughts about the credibility of McGinniss. Having spent some board time I realize there is a “knot” in the stomach until the last vote is counted, but given the fact that quite a few people in the city were supportive of the commissioners cash grab, even with the circumstances you’ve outlined, I have to think the schools are safe. As to the pits, do you think anybody might have changed their minds over the last four years when the ward has basically had NO representation??? God I sure hope so!!
Well gentlemen in 15 minutes they will start the count. I think i’ll crack a cold one and wait and see if we have any hopes of progress. “Laugh about it shout about it when you’ve got to choose, anyway you look at it you lose”. (Paul Simon)
Could be with the schools. I was just laying out the concerns they face. You can lay out your concerns about McGinnis. She also has many people who support her.
As for Pitts, no idea what voters will do. I don’t think most people pay all that much attention to City Council, but he at least has some name recognition.
Adams got 65. Two of the three stooges soon to be gone.
Sorry, Adams was more like 64.
Boomer, good call on the school levy. Passed pretty easily.
Berger with 55. Steve hits that one dead on.
Just read the online article of the Lima News with a few quotes from Berger after this evenings win, and one line he said in particular sort of raised one of my eyebrows…
“I don’t intend to be tolerant any more of negative voices that want to tear us down”
…maybe I’m being a little preliminary here, but am I the only one that is a bit on the concerned side about that?
Just wondering…
Candell, probably nothing to get excited about. Berger apparently didn’t realize he lost 44 percent of the vote to a man who barely put together a campaign and what he did have to say was negative.
Lima still has things that need resolved. Berger can keep pretending otherwise, but the facts remain. Unemployment is up, and they’ll blame the economy. Crime is up, but they’ll say it’s lower than it once was. Apparently, if you deny things, they don’t exist.
Berger cannot do anything about people who say negative things other than to say in fact that they are not true. But he would have been in trouble if Beck had mounted a campaign. I had Berger at 60 percent because I thought Beck’s campaign was that ineffective. If I’m surprised, Camp Berger also should be, but instead he’ll be mean to people who say Lima has problems? Um, Ohio Deparment of Job and Family Services, which does the unemployment report, you’re in big trouble now. Big trouble.
Ron do you think with the results of the county or Lima elections, it will be business as usual.
Yes, to a degree, Scant, though it would be nice to think otherwise.
I think Dave Berger is going to take his win as a mandate, which it isn’t. His opponent ran an awful campaign, and Berger ought to do more than say nuh uh to some of the issues Beck raised. My guess is he will in fact categorically reject the assertion and categorically deny that such defamatory remarks are in fact accurate.
The commissioners, I think, will continue with business as usual in that they won’t know what to do about the budget, and some department will be screwed with little warning rather than the cuts being across the board. I think you’re about to see Sheriff Sam Crish, Prosecutor Juergen Waldick and the judges start acting like Dan Beck when the commissioners cut his budget.
Wasn’t there an American Township Trustee race tonight? I can’t find the results anywhere.
Yes. Not sure where on our Web site it is, but Basinger and Mohler win:
Paul Bassinger 2,708
Darrell Long 2,218
Lynn Mohler 2,527
Thanks! I just found it was getting ready to paste it, but thanks.
rlederman says:
November 3, 2009 at 11:03 pmCandell, probably nothing to get excited about. Berger apparently didn’t realize he lost 44 percent of the vote to a man who barely put together a campaign and what he did have to say was negative.
Lima still has things that need resolved. Berger can keep pretending otherwise, but the facts remain. Unemployment is up, and they’ll blame the economy. Crime is up, but they’ll say it’s lower than it once was. Apparently, if you deny things, they don’t exist.
Berger cannot do anything about people who say negative things other than to say in fact that they are not true. But he would have been in trouble if Beck had mounted a campaign. I had Berger at 60 percent because I thought Beck’s campaign was that ineffective. If I’m surprised, Camp Berger also should be, but instead he’ll be mean to people who say Lima has problems? Um, Ohio Deparment of Job and Family Services, which does the unemployment report, you’re in big trouble now. Big trouble
probably the best summation of what happened yesterday that ive read ron…